Posts by Yan Bibiyan

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could Jonah have survived in the belly of a whale?

by highdose in

its not like he had access to oxygen, light, fresh water or food.

what about the digestive jucies in the belly?.

please correct me if i'm wrong, but surely this just can't be possible?.

Yan Bibiyan

If God's Son can be transferred to the womb of a virgin Israelite by means of God's Spirit, surely His Spirit could preserve Jonah in the belly of a fish.

While I may agree with the "muraculous" approach in explaining such events as alegories, there are practical considerations that completely obliterate the possibility of these things occuring in reality.

Jonah STILL needed oxygen, fresh water and protection from digestive acids.

Did the Holy Spirit create a physical barrier inside the whale?

Did the Holy Spirit create oxygen inside said physical barrier? How was the oxygen derived? For someone's life to be sustained for 3 days, X amount of oxygen is needed PERIOD.

Did the Holy Spirit use existing matter to break down and release oxygen, maybe some oxides. Was it an electrolysis using ocean water, if so what was the physical aparatus to achieve it?

I can go on and on.

I KNOW of at least a dozen reazons why this CAN'T be done.

If your answer in the inavoidability of physical limitations is that we, well, DON'T KNOW, then that's what it is.

WE DON'T KNOW.

Let's admit it and until WE KNOW, let's not just say WE KNOW because it's a MIRACLE.....Even miracles are confined within the laws of physics, termidynamics, etc, which make our very existense possible. These laws, whether instituted by God or not, are blind, impartial and unforgiving.

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Some Balls in the March 2012 WT

by Yan Bibiyan in

source here, page 19, par 20:.

"20 a north american brother writes:.

when my wife and i attended an assembly.

Yan Bibiyan

WT library CD research...Hmmmmm....

Ask a JW to help you out with this research (credit to Mad), now that they are officialy encouraged to do it.

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WT: "Don't be a FOOLISH Christian and OWN things!"

by cedars in

jw
friends

i've taken a bit of a break recently from analysing the more recent articles.

i find it makes my head spin when i dwell for too long on all the lunacy, fear-mongering and paranoia - of which this month's issue is a classic example.

however, this time round i just couldn't help myself.. there were quite a few things that leapt out at me, but one of the funnier quotes was as follows (taken from page 19, paragraph 20):.

Yan Bibiyan

Cedars,

I started a similar topic this morning off the same quote; yours beats me not only in timing, but in depth. Cheers!

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Some Balls in the March 2012 WT

by Yan Bibiyan in

source here, page 19, par 20:.

"20 a north american brother writes:.

when my wife and i attended an assembly.

Yan Bibiyan

Had to add this one too:

page 26, par. 6

" THE GOOD OLD DAYS

6 One distinct danger is a distorted view of the good old days. Our memory is not always reliable.We may unwittingly minimize

the problems we had in the past and at the same time exaggerate the joys, making it seem that things were a lot better than they really were.

This distorted recollection can cause us to long for the good old days. But the Bible warns us: “Do not say, ‘Why were the old days better than these days?’ for

it is not wise to ask that.” (Eccl. 7:10, New English Translation)Why is this type of thinking so dangerous?"

Wait, aren't you a$$holes trumping exactly that? How things now are WAY worse than they were in "the good old days", how the world is getting wicked by the minute?

Is it your unreliable memory, or the deliberate amnesia you try to put your sheep in?

Heed your own advice : “Do not say, ‘Why were the old days better than these days?’

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Some Balls in the March 2012 WT

by Yan Bibiyan in

source here, page 19, par 20:.

"20 a north american brother writes:.

when my wife and i attended an assembly.

Yan Bibiyan

Source here, page 19, par 20:

"20 A North American brother writes:

“When my wife and I attended an assembly

in 2006, we had been baptized

for 30 years. While driving home after

the program, we discussed how we

could apply the counsel given on simplifying

our life. (Matt. 6:19-22)We owned

three homes, land, luxury cars, a boat,

and a motor home. Feeling that we must

have looked like foolish Christians (emphasys mine), we

decided to make the full-time ministry our goal."

Really?! "Foolish Cristians"!?

Yet, Mother can own over a Billion dollars worth in real estate and be perfectly fine. The balls these people have...

There are other gems in there for those interested....

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CRISIS OF CONSCIENCE ARRIVED - Lets see what my guy (Ray franz) had been up to

by mankkeli in

coc was delivered this evenning and i will be jacking it the whole night.

i might write a review to refute ray's argument after the reading and btw, i will be away from here for some time.

let it begin.. .

Yan Bibiyan

Read it with your elders, just to make sure no inconsistency is slipped or an apostate lie is missed.....

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Feb 2012 public WT - they dare to comment on Harold Camping!!!

by Mickey mouse in

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friends

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Yan Bibiyan

Well, if they have balls that big, why not print this article BEFORE May 2011?

And for the record, yes, the Earth will be destroyed in a fiery ball when the Sun burns out.....Sorry!

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The Hypocrisy continues!!!!!!!

by justmom in

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a relative of mine who is disfellowshipped for having a baby out of wedlock and living with the babys daddy has a sister who is an active jehovahs witness.

she has had nothing to do with her newborn neice for 9 months and outta the blue textes who sister and asks her to meet at a. restaurant as they are in town and would like to see the baby.

the mom out of love gave in so her nephews could see their cousin whom they'll never know.

Yan Bibiyan

"Go to hell" is polite in this case.

"Eff you" would have been more appropriate...

Justmom, this is insane!

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FADERS YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED - BELIEVE IT OR NOT!.

by mankkeli in

to onthewayout, 00dad, cedars and other reknowned faders.

reports have reached patterson that faders are much more dangerous than those disfellowshipped.

their reasons for fading are no longer new to the gb.

Yan Bibiyan

Peoples, relax! Mankkeli is neither a troll nor a psycho.

He is the most clever apostate I've ever seen working under the disguse of a hard core JW. For anyone remotely questioning the WT, a mankkeli charachter is all they need to flip the switch.

Mankkeli, great job bro!

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"You're Stumbling Me"

by Ding in

the wts sometimes turns the "stumbling" concept into a manipulative weapon.. the biblical concept of "stumbling" is that if you know someone else has a weakness you shouldn't do something that will cause him to cave in to that weakness.

for example, if you have a friend who is trying to fight alcohol addiction you shouldn't invite him to go somewhere where everyone else will be imbibing.. i think it's perfectly legitimate for a friend to tell you that he has a drinking problem and that he'd really appreciate it if you would refrain from serving alcohol while he's over.

but i think it crosses a line if the friend tries to manipulate you into swearing off alcohol altogether because the mere thought of you drinking booze will stumble him.. but some jws try to get others to refrain from doing things "so you don't stumble me.

Yan Bibiyan

You just stumbled me!

I have a near death intolerance for the word "stumble" and when I hear or read it, I have to stop working immediatelly and spend the rest of the day with my shrink ($250)

Since it's your fault, you should pick up the bill.